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Kelsey Grammer - Cardinal Grand Square in action

Author: Marjorie. Date: 02 Jul 2010

Kelsey Grammer (21 Feb 1955) now divorcing from his third wife has a Cardinal Grand Square in his chart of Mars in Aries opposition Neptune square Jupiter Uranus in Cancer opposition Venus. Cardinal Grand Square individuals tend to have event filled, very restless lives with revolving crises. But it can produce some very successful people. The 1930 Cardinal Grand Square - Saturn opp Jupiter Pluto square Uranus opposition ? produced Sean Connery plus many other stalwarts of the business and political world.

KelseyG (Cheers & Frasier) is a Sun Pisces, with Moon in Aquarius probably opposition Pluto square Saturn in Scorpio which would certainly point to a very bleak emotional and family life. His Sun is also opposition Pluto. His Mars in Aries is very heavily aspected being trine Pluto as well as square Uranus and opposition Neptune which might be a pointer to the major tragedies of his life.
His parents split early and his father whom he barely knew was murdered when tr Saturn was conjunct his Mars in Aries putting discouraging influence right round his Cardinal Grand Square. With tr Neptune conjunct his Saturn in Scorpio (square Moon opp Pluto) - so a real shock, setback and highly confusing.
When his sister was raped and murdered in 1975 tr Saturn had moved a quarter cycle to be in Cancer conjunct his Jupiter Uranus, again shaking his Grand Square; with tr Uranus conjunct his Neptune doing the same. When his half twin brothers were killed by a shark tr Pluto was then in Libra square his Jupiter Uranus and again putting immense pressure on his T square.
On Solar Arcs when his sister was killed his SArc Mars opp Neptune was at 17/18 degrees Taurus/Scorpio so I would hazard a guess that would be squaring his Aquarius Moon, putting his birth time around 3am. That would put Pluto in the 8th and Mars in Aries in the 4th which feels about right. With a Capricorn Asc and Venus in the 1st and Neptune in the 10th. When his brothers were killed tr Uranus was conjunct his SA Neptune which was conjunct his natal Saturn.
At the moment he has his Solar Arc Saturn moving to conjunct his Venus which is emotionally downbeat. More pointedly he has his natal Sun opposition Pluto now moved by Solar Arc to hard aspect his Cardinal Grand Square. So another life changing and probably unwanted change.

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From: Patrick. (05 Jul 2010 00:11): When I had transiting Saturn conjunct my Venus I preferred that no one bother me. You really don't feel like meeting someone else's needs. His post Frasier TV career is fumbling along, though he is or was on broadway. He was in X-Men and is doing some producing. His second wife was possibly a Borderline Personality. He said she was abusive and attempted suicide when he left. He is also a cocaine addict and alcoholic (Mars/Uranus/Neptune), so he is hopefully contacting his sponsor. He had a drunk driving charge and crashed a car while drunk. You throw cocaine into a drunk you get a very reckless animal. He has had a heart attack in 2008. A cocaine relapse can kill him, if he does not have a fatal car accident.

Moon opp Pluto you better get insight into your relationship with your mother which will reap terrible intimate relationships. His current wife is a Playboy model so fantasy life could overlap with real life. Congressman Dennis Kucinich married a much young and also quite beautiful Elizabeth. She however is brilliant and accomplished and they share strong ideals. Age difference relationships that work are often the most spiritual and karmic.

From: Gina. (02 Jul 2010 19:05): Marjorie: Thanks so much for your generous feed back on Kelsey Grammer. Wow! I thought I had a tough time of it! Kelsey sounds like he has really been put through the wringer. Again, thanks so much for all of your hard work! Gina

From: Melanie. (02 Jul 2010 14:37): well said lj...

From: lj. (02 Jul 2010 12:08): Yes we are reading them and really enjoying the content. Its so much better with less volume, having cut out all the unnecessary nonsense which lets Marjorie deal with the nuts and bolts of the subjects. I think the reason some items dont get comments is because the are so succinct and to the point, no comment needed.

From: Marjorie. (02 Jul 2010 09:46): Sort of. Nothing is perfect and you have to dodge around a bit to see who has commented where. But the alternative of everything in one long stream was worse. Definitely an improvement and I'm glad the Open Forum is being used since that helps.

From: Maggy van Krimpen. (02 Jul 2010 09:42): Marjorie, you've been working your socks off since you got back! I am amazed that this manis still waking around with such a heap of disasters in his life - that IS going well against the average life don't you think? 2 half brothers killed by sharks! sister raped and murdered! and the early years do look very hard going - it is surely no coincidence he is so successful at playing a shrink - he must have had many years of them to survive.

I must say I loathe it when all your comments after a few days still have 0 comments under them - all that hard work. Yet I'm sure people are reading what you say.....are you happy with the format now?